i'm seriously considering volunteering to help build an earthship. i figure it would be educational and awesome to make this a reality for someone.
but before i do...
i was curious if anyone here has done this. what was your experience? did you gain a lot from this experience? can you recommend a program?
thanx =)
but before i do...
i was curious if anyone here has done this. what was your experience? did you gain a lot from this experience? can you recommend a program?
thanx =)
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 11:06 AMHm. I know some folks up here at Cal State Northridge (the "Roots and Culture" club) who seriously want to build an earthship. One of them, from my understanding, does have some experience in construction.
Also, check out Calearth.org. Not an earthship but a dynamite way of building (it's what I'm hoping our proto-co-housing community will decide to build in Topanga Canyon) -
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 12:11 PMid reccomend nader khalili (www.calearth.org) over mike reynolds (www.earthship.org) anyday. but, if youre into earthships specifically reynolds is the guy.
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Mon, February 6, 2006 - 12:57 PMto be more specific -
i think that most people are drawn to earthships b/c of the self supporting systems - water cachement, passive solar, etc. - all of which were largely pioneered by other people. reynolds did a fairly good job synthesizing them, but i have yet to see an earthship (and i live in taos, nm, home of the earthship, and lived in an earthship here for a while) that actually meets its goals.. its almost impossible to grow food in the indoor beds b/c usually the sun is too bright and temperature varies too much, not to mention that you dont really want to grow food in untreated greywater. while his passive solar ideas go a long way, interior temp is nothing near stable, it can be waay to hot or cold depending on the sunlight. even in sunny taos, the solar pre-heat for hot water doesnt do too much - yes, you save propane over not having a backup, but with an on-demand heater use is fairly low anyhow.
the design / layout has some interesting elements and can be appealing, but overall i find most earthships fairly unattractive and poorly laid out. and the building technique itself is fairly energy intensive, both in terms of human labor (pounding those tires is hell, and every one of them needs pounding) and in terms of resources - those houses are full of cement and epdm and other materials with high resource cost. and they dont work any better than a well designed house using other materials - cal-earth's earthbag style, straw bale, etc.
my assessment is that reynolds' claim to fame is integrating all these support systems (passive solar, water, sewage, power..) into a sell-able package that has a distinctive look. but all in all, i dont think the package is really that sound, and i think its just as easy to incorporate all those elements into a house that is easier to build, less resource intensive, and still quite attractive - as distinctive or as plain-jane as you like.
of course, theres still something to learn from reynolds, and i have heard from several people that they have liked his apprenticeships and classes. i just find there is a bit of a cult of personality surrounding him and wanted to balance it with a bit of first-hand information. -
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Thu, February 9, 2006 - 4:00 PMim once found on the net a website for an architect, and among the plans and designs he had posted was a re-design of the basic earthship form - new floor plan, different functionality, etc.. but still the same off-grid self sustaining focus. this was a really great design and id love to see it again, but cant remember where. anyone know? -
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Mon, February 13, 2006 - 10:38 PM
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Re: volunteering to help build an earthship?
Wed, February 15, 2006 - 12:08 PMI would agree with Andy. I used to work with EDGE Architects in Taos, NM. An architecture firm founded by two architects who formerly worked under Mike Reynolds. So, I had the opportunity to work on Earthship projects (as well as Strawbale, Pumice-crete, adobe, and Rastra-block), in both the design and construction phase. Having just completed an undergraduate program in 1998 in Ecological Design, I was very discouraged by the realities of Earthship construction. I found that the very basis of their design was flawed. The majority of early Reynolds' designs were planned with only the coldest day of the year in mind, making them uncomfortable for much of the remaining 364 days of the year.
The underlying principle of an earthship is to utilize thermal mass to regulate interior temperature (appropriate for regions which receive copius sunlight). This can be more efficiently acheived through rammed-earth, adobe, cob, sandbag, concrete or stone construction, with proper passive solar design. And none of these options introduce toxic products into a pristine environment as do Earthships (with the exception of concrete). As well, the tires (which simple act as a form for rammed-earth walls) have a tendency to off-gas throughout the life of the building, making for an unhealthy interior environment. Not to mention that the high elevation sites chosen for many Earthships require that radon mitigation systems be installed.
Is it a good learning experience? Sure. If you want to learn all of the downfalls of Earthship construction, destroy your body pounding tires, and invest a ridiculous amount of time and energy into a project that is ultimately dissatisfying, toxic and unhealthy, then go for it!!!
As Andy indicated, there are many other much more suitable construction methods, which employ the same environmentally minded principles. I would strongly urge you to find something other than an earthship on which to volunteer.